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		<title>Comment on A Question About Our Fall Exhibition&#8230; by Lisa Nezwazky</title>
		<link>http://jpankey.edublogs.org/2009/11/14/a-question-about-our-fall-exhibition/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Nezwazky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why it is important for the work to be judged at all.  Our kids are continually being judged from outside sources, all of their work is graded, and now with the exhibition, there&#039;s more judging.  I think we need to teach our kids to decide what&#039;s good and worthy intrinsically.  I think that the community should come in to see the exhibitions, and just state what they see and observe, without judgement, opening to the idea that maybe they can learn something from the kids.  The children should be allowed to explain to the judges why they did what they did and the process it took to get there.  (Kind of like when one goes to an art opening and talks to the artist about their work.) In this way the students and community are in process with each other.  Then all children would just be children/students, and not &quot;special needs children&quot; and &quot;typicals.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why it is important for the work to be judged at all.  Our kids are continually being judged from outside sources, all of their work is graded, and now with the exhibition, there&#8217;s more judging.  I think we need to teach our kids to decide what&#8217;s good and worthy intrinsically.  I think that the community should come in to see the exhibitions, and just state what they see and observe, without judgement, opening to the idea that maybe they can learn something from the kids.  The children should be allowed to explain to the judges why they did what they did and the process it took to get there.  (Kind of like when one goes to an art opening and talks to the artist about their work.) In this way the students and community are in process with each other.  Then all children would just be children/students, and not &#8220;special needs children&#8221; and &#8220;typicals.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question About Our Fall Exhibition&#8230; by Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit on something there, sister! Last fall, the Resource teacher and I collaborated on alliterative poem project which required much new learning and enormous effort from the students and, among many other things, LOTS of encouragement from us. A few students (who truly gave it 100%) were scored a disappointing &quot;Promising.&quot; Sorry, these children demonstrated &quot;Exemplary&quot; work when judged using IEP standards. If you wanted &quot;Exemplary&quot; as in gifted and talented standards, you should have written and illustrated it yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit on something there, sister! Last fall, the Resource teacher and I collaborated on alliterative poem project which required much new learning and enormous effort from the students and, among many other things, LOTS of encouragement from us. A few students (who truly gave it 100%) were scored a disappointing &#8220;Promising.&#8221; Sorry, these children demonstrated &#8220;Exemplary&#8221; work when judged using IEP standards. If you wanted &#8220;Exemplary&#8221; as in gifted and talented standards, you should have written and illustrated it yourselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question About Our Fall Exhibition&#8230; by Laura Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I guess I figured that there was a system for this.

Maybe we need to be upfront with the judges before we send them out.  If you get to a student product that you&#039;re marking down, interview the student and ask the teacher if this is below typical, typical, or above the typical work for that particular student, i.e. Do they have a learning disability that made them have to work extra hard to come up with an &quot;average&quot; project?  Teachers need to be honest with the judges, too.  &quot;This fourth grade child reads at a first grade level.  You can tell those sentences are simple, but they would be considered a second grade level, so the child did a lot of revision and worked really hard on the reflection.&quot;

In one case, a fifth grader&#039;s reflection was pretty much unreadable.  BUT he worked on it all by himself and did not want any help.  He wrote the paragraph and typed it, and did his part of the group project.  I think we just need the judges to ask more questions.

Otherwise, if we labeled, we would need to label all.  Red dots are students identified as students allowed grade modifications and should be judged with effort in mind, blue dots are average non-optional and should be judged solely by the rubric, green are optional and should be judged with most rigor.  Kind of lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I guess I figured that there was a system for this.</p>
<p>Maybe we need to be upfront with the judges before we send them out.  If you get to a student product that you&#8217;re marking down, interview the student and ask the teacher if this is below typical, typical, or above the typical work for that particular student, i.e. Do they have a learning disability that made them have to work extra hard to come up with an &#8220;average&#8221; project?  Teachers need to be honest with the judges, too.  &#8220;This fourth grade child reads at a first grade level.  You can tell those sentences are simple, but they would be considered a second grade level, so the child did a lot of revision and worked really hard on the reflection.&#8221;</p>
<p>In one case, a fifth grader&#8217;s reflection was pretty much unreadable.  BUT he worked on it all by himself and did not want any help.  He wrote the paragraph and typed it, and did his part of the group project.  I think we just need the judges to ask more questions.</p>
<p>Otherwise, if we labeled, we would need to label all.  Red dots are students identified as students allowed grade modifications and should be judged with effort in mind, blue dots are average non-optional and should be judged solely by the rubric, green are optional and should be judged with most rigor.  Kind of lame.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Three Little Pigs by Laura Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job all around!  Your kids did such a good job.  Thanks for posting the vids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job all around!  Your kids did such a good job.  Thanks for posting the vids!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Something New by Lisa Moore</title>
		<link>http://jpankey.edublogs.org/2009/08/15/another-something-new/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Pankey!  In trying to find your email I see you made a big switch and I am forever thankful that Dylan was able to be in your class before this happened!!!  I actually need to get your hubby&#039;s contact info for Common Ground.  Can you or have Chip email me current contact info to lisa@dancingwaterusa.com.  Hugs to you and your family!

Lisa Moore, Dylan&#039;s Mama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Pankey!  In trying to find your email I see you made a big switch and I am forever thankful that Dylan was able to be in your class before this happened!!!  I actually need to get your hubby&#8217;s contact info for Common Ground.  Can you or have Chip email me current contact info to <a href="mailto:lisa@dancingwaterusa.com">lisa@dancingwaterusa.com</a>.  Hugs to you and your family!</p>
<p>Lisa Moore, Dylan&#8217;s Mama.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Morning Meeting Activities by terriaDOTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>terriaDOTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear ms.pankey you are the best and me and 
Darnesha   andDeklaya and Jaylen and 
jusin and chrishadon  we play with  each other</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear ms.pankey you are the best and me and<br />
Darnesha   andDeklaya and Jaylen and<br />
jusin and chrishadon  we play with  each other</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by suzannegarverick</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzannegarverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like fun to be in Mrs. Pankey&#039;s class!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like fun to be in Mrs. Pankey&#8217;s class!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on KerPoof! by dte6thgradersrule</title>
		<link>http://jpankey.edublogs.org/2008/10/10/kerpoof/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>dte6thgradersrule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great blog you have set up!! I will be checking back often to see what you are doing. 
Mr. Coleman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great blog you have set up!! I will be checking back often to see what you are doing.<br />
Mr. Coleman</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Tye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>School is cool!   School is fun ;)   School is exciting!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School is cool!   School is fun <img src='http://jpankey.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />    School is exciting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What in the World??? by Myron Braden Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myron Braden Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a funny looking rabbit with deer antlrs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a funny looking rabbit with deer antlrs.</p>
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